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Rangoo hat geschrieben:

Jo, aber wenn man sich das mal so richtig überlegt, ist da schon was dran. Der Mondragon wird ja auch nimmer lange spielen. Denke den Hildebrandt hätte man schon holen können. Oder halt mal den Klandt vom FSV Frankfurt. Der ist echt gut, nur evtl nen bissel zu klein (ähnlich wie Fromlowitz).
Der von Bremen hat heute auch gut gehalten
Wobei er teilweise abgeschossen wurde und beim Rauslaufen nicht so dolle aussah.

Achja... Danke Wolfsburg für die 3 Punkte

Undertaker hat geschrieben:Dieses Jahr wirds sau, sau schwer. Ich hoffe und bete, dass Soldo UND Maier jetzt gehen müssen. Hoffentlich holen die dann Pröll (wenn der noch ein bisschen Kölner Herz hat, sonst kanns auch Rensing sein) und schmeißen jeden konsequent raus der so eine scheiß Söldner Mentalität an den Tag legt wie jetzt Mondragon. Der hat doch echt en Knall verpasst... Er so verraten wie Jesus Christus... gibt hier grad nicht wenige, die ihn mit Maier und Soldo zusammen wie Jesus Christus ans Kreuz nageln möchten. Hoffe dass der nie, nie wieder für uns spielt!

Ich verstehe diese Kessler-Ausleihe echt null. Zum einen weil man damit einen potenziellen Mitabstiegskonkurenten stärkt (achja ne, damit haben wir ja nix zu tun) und zum anderen, weil Mondragon ja nicht erst seit gestern 39 Jahre alt ist... Aber das ist nur ein Punkt in einer seit Jahren verkorksten Kaderplanung, die Maier zum Großteil zu verantworten hat.

Jetzt kann man nur hoffen, dass zwei, drei Vereine noch ähnlich abstürzen und wir dieses Jahr irgendwie überleben.

Undertaker hat geschrieben: Nicht mitbekommen, dass Mondragon seine Situation mit der von Jesus gleichgestellt hat?

Pörtner hat geschrieben:

Undertaker hat geschrieben: Nicht mitbekommen, dass Mondragon seine Situation mit der von Jesus gleichgestellt hat?

Nee. Wahnsinn. Torwart und Linksaußen halt.

Verwirrung um Soldo-Entlassung

Verwirrung um die Zvonimir Soldo und den 1.FC Köln. Zunächst meldete der "Kölner Stadtanzeiger" die Entlassung des Trainers, später wurde die Meldung zurückgezogen.

Soldo hatte am Sonntagmorgen noch das Training bei den "Geißböcken" geleitet.

Soldo hatte den FC im Sommer 2009 von Christoph Daum übernommen und den Klassenerhalt erreicht. In dieser Spielzeit steht der 1. FC Köln mit fünf Punkten nach neun Spieltagen auf Platz 17 der Tabelle.

In der aktuellen Saison wäre Soldo nach dem Stuttgarter Christian Gross der zweite Trainer, der vorzeitig entlassen wird.

mash hat geschrieben:ich wäre so gerne fan von einem normalen verein

Pörtner hat geschrieben:

mash hat geschrieben:ich wäre so gerne fan von einem normalen verein

Wäre doch langweilig.

Clueless Köln in meltdown as Soldo is shown the door

by Raphael Honigstein

His side rock bottom and a victim of Mainz's success, Zvonimir Soldo got the axe. But the buck shouldn't stop with him

There was no way the manager was getting fired, even if he lost the match, a retired TV commentator with fabled inside knowledge of FC Köln board machinations intimated to reporters at half-time. Forty-five minutes and the sixth defeat of the campaign later, the glum sporting director Michael Meier told everyone that "today, it's better to say nothing". The coach took training the next morning, smiled a sanguine smile on the TV talk show Doppelpass ("speculation is part of the business, managers always have to have their bags ready"), then retired to his hotel room to watch football.

There had been talk that he would be allowed a final stand in a meeting with the president Wolfgang Overath in the club HQ, the Geißbockheim, but then they decided to decide matters without him. News of his imminent departure did the rounds, followed by denials, followed by more rumours and more backtracking. "Even Köln's [tabloid] moles are not reliable anymore," spox.com complained. The hotel room phone did ring, though, at 4pm. Meier did not offer any reasons, he only told the ex-Stuttgart midfielder what he already knew. A thin, limp statement appeared on the website. "Following an extensive analysis, co-operation has ended," it said. There were no words of thanks, no best wishes, no pretence of decency. As botched endings go, Christopher Nolan's The Prestige had nothing on the dismissal of Zvonimir Soldo.

You could say the club had no choice and the board nowhere else to go. Köln are bottom of the table after Saturday's 2-1 defeat at Hannover. They have a cup game against TSV 1860 Munich on Tuesday that cannot be lost if the season is to mean more than one long relegation fight. And the drab performance in the AWD-Arena did suggest that Soldo, 42, was running out of ideas. Players told local tabloid Kölner Express that his half-time speech, at 2-0 down, consisted of little more than shouting at players for wearing the wrong kind of footwear and the most depressing of platitudes. "If we can get back to 2-1, there will be everything to play for," he said.

Stating the obvious was evidently his thing. The Croatian, who excelled as a holding midfielder for a decade at Stuttgart, was the last classic Bundesliga manager in the Bundesliga, a man who believed football was essentially about man-management, making the players run and keeping things simple. Lukas Podolski, not necessarily Germany's deepest thinker himself, recently remarked that Soldo "presumed too much"; polite code for tactics were not really his thing. Soldo's game plan essentially boiled down to sit deep and hope for the best at the other end. It worked last season, when Köln frustrated the hell out of the opposition and scrapped to safety.

He was realistic enough about his team's potential to adopt the same strategy this year but the typically self-delusional board set more glamorous targets. "The bare minimum is to be ahead of Gladbach, and we want to attack Bayer Leverkusen," Meier said in the summer. "We don't want anything to do with relegation."

Soldo knew they were clueless but he never lost his cool. He still cut a relaxed, genial if slightly hapless figure yesterday. When the Doppelpass anchorman patronised him with praise ("You will have won many friends in the public with your appearance today"), Soldo warily replied that he would have preferred to have won a few more games instead. To an extent, he has been a victim of Mainz 05's success, too. The heroics of Thomas Tuchel and his boys have contrasted sharply with the terrible football of wealthier, much bigger Köln, whose supporters are essentially a forgiving lot, happy to celebrate the team and themselves with little reason. But even they could no longer stand for action on the pitch more awful and unspeakably crappy than anything Hennes, the live goat and club mascot could muster.

"Soldo out – and Meier, too," they shouted on Saturday. They know it is not the manager's fault. Meier, the man who bankrupted Dortmund in the 90s, has overseen the assembly of the league's most exotic bunch of unruly egomaniacs, lazy has-beens and overpaid miscreants. Every international week has seen countless arguments, players going awol or straight postal. Benched goalkeeper Faryd Mondragon took megalomania to its logical conclusion on Wednesday when he compared his plight to that of another professional saviour. "I feel as if I have a knife in my back," the Colombian said at the official club press conference. "Jesus Christ was deceived and betrayed, too."

Podolski, who was meant to be Köln's messiah, has belatedly realised that the club has "no concept" beyond putting all their chips on the No10 – him. Meier's capricious moves in the transfer market have left the club with a debt of €21m. The ultimate culprit is Overath, of course, a local legend who has been able to hide his total incompetence behind his dignified appearance. Süddeutsche Zeitung called the 67-year-old World Cup winner a "president impersonator", an assessment that is both incredibly harsh and true. Overath will surely have to let Meier go soon before they turn on him. "Meier has made mistakes, one or two buys weren't good," the president said on Saturday, laying the groundwork for more drastic measures.

In the meantime, Köln did what any self-respecting Bundesliga club would have done in their position: they jumped on the latest bandwagon and followed the Tuchel-induced trend of promoting youth coaches. Frank Schaefer, the manager of the Under-23 team, will sit on the bench tomorrow, on a trial basis. "Signing a big manager would have smacked of panic," Overath said. Yes, really. That's what he said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... down-soldo

Zingaro hat geschrieben:Generell würde ich Hans Meyer beim Club wieder begrüßen! Da hat der FCN den schönsten und attraktivsten Fussball gespielt, seitdem ich Fan bin! 4-3-3...

Undertaker hat geschrieben:Hatte gerade einen Traum... Hans Meyer wäre schon Trainer gewesen, als Mondragon seine Jesus Sprüche abgelassen hat... DAS wären Legendenkonter gewesen!!